It lives in the La Plata shop right now, so please go by and try it on. I made the size 40 and 3/4 sleeves. After the collar was knit and sewn on I added a little chain stitch around the back of the neck which makes the collar pop. If I had it to do again, I would shape the shoulders in two rows since it has set in sleeves. This little mod would make the back hang better, I think. Should have known, but just didn't think that hard about it Even so, I do love it!